Java & .NET

I found this link today and found his thoughts very interesting. I'd have to say I share his thoughts on the productivity of Java. I think it CAN be productive, but the way many organizations are using it.. it is NOT very productive. I've used .NET enough to know that if you want to build a typical web app ASP.NET is a pretty productive environment. It is also pretty much the only way to develop web apps in .NET. I've wondered, as he has, if all the layers, patterns, frameworks, etc that are found in typical J2EE applications aren't adding way more complexity than they're worth. After reading his blog... I'm inclined to look more at Tapestry and Hibernate.